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Username: lolozori
Post Date: 2024-07-10 16:08:50

[MEDIA=reddit]StableDiffusion/comments/1dz2b9l/paintsundo_new_model_from_ilyasviel_given_a[/MEDIA] So in the futur how to prove we really drew those digital pictures if AI can now generate timelapses from finished art? How will anyone on internet prove ownership of his own art? Maybe programs like Rebelle will need to addsome sort of digital stamps on timelapse videos generated ?

Username: 2dpainter
Post Date: 2024-07-10 17:46:03

The way a person paints can be recognized by the line work. A person always has small irregularities. You could even go so far as to manually add mistakes into your painting. Since I come from Germany (Europe), where digital rights are somewhat better protected, there will certainly soon be laws that require content created with AI to be labeled. So you can make people in a video say things, using AI, that they never said.

Username: 2dpainter
Post Date: 2024-07-10 18:33:52

A sentence was missing in my post above. (unfortunately, the posts here cannot be edited afterwards even though it is now 2024 and that is not a problem in other forums) here the missing part: Because it affects many more areas than just painting So you can make people in a video say things, using AI, that they never said.

Username: OuroborosMaker
Post Date: 2024-12-02 01:11:35

In the same way that the quality of computer fonts is validated with quality seals, there will be websites with AI that detects drawings made by AI. These websites will distribute quality seals for art made by people, and the best detection models will have the best seals recognized. Something that could also happen is that this type of service will partner with the programs, not only to detect from the final illustration, but also to use layers as a base to distribute a second type of seal with even greater accuracy against artistic forgeries.

Username: LunatiqueRob
Post Date: 2024-12-10 04:39:50

From the link, it looks like the AI can only generate incremental steps, but not the actual lines being drawn and brushstrokes being painted. So it's not actually a timelapse but like a slideshow of the various steps. A real timelapse will show lines being drawn one by one, and paintstrokes being applied one by one. Unfortunately, it's only a matter of time until someone programs an AI that can do exactly that. I can't for the life of me understand why human beings want to kill our desire to create by trying to get AI to do the creating for us. Things like automation and service-related tasks, sure, but why would anyone want to live in a world where the AI is writing our novels, screenplays, making our movies and TV shows, doing our acting, painting our art, making our music, etc.?

Username: KINGLIFER
Post Date: 2024-12-13 19:47:55

[QUOTE="lolozori, post: 4525, member: 162673"] [MEDIA=reddit]StableDiffusion/comments/1dz2b9l/paintsundo_new_model_from_ilyasviel_given_a[/MEDIA] So in the futur how to prove we really drew those digital pictures if AI can now generate timelapses from finished art? How will anyone on internet prove ownership of his own art? Maybe programs like Rebelle will need to addsome sort of digital stamps on timelapse videos generated ? [/QUOTE] I use ComfyUi and there is a way to embed a qr code or anything really into the image. it is hidden. I am also aware that any image I can see with my own eyes can me remixed using Flux so a signature or watermarking is honestly a thing of the past. If I can do this at home on a low level computer imagine the highend stuff.

Username: PainterJames
Post Date: 2025-01-20 02:42:46

Streaming. This is something that someone (or a company) pretending to fake being an artist won't be able to do (streaming that they are actually painting). That is, if you are not camera shy . Although a camera pointing to your hands would be enough. Maybe just the actual Rebelle screen capture while you draw could suffice, but a cam pointing to a pen display, even in a small corner where the stroke can be seen clearly enough would be ideal. Also, talking to your chat (any decent mic would suffice), etc, provides with the human side, the person behind the art. And the chat would ask questions, etc. No AI user would last much with a fake, in that situation. People are going to get [I][U]very bored[/U][/I] of so much "plastic" and artificial generation of everything (from text, to music, to images) pretty soon (indeed, already). What some people and 'powers that be' hadn't realized is the huge importance of the social aspect, psychological, human factor of the actual audience, the consumers, which happen to be human!, in all this (let's be honest) planned operation to cut (labor) costs for large companies and make freelance artists redundant. And streaming nowadays is not really complicated in the two main platforms: Twitch and Youtube. Plus, some of us know those already pretty well (I quite like them). Even if the "AI" gets to be absolutely perfect in their 'collage' (from scrapped human art) making, people will identify a lot more with the individual behind the artwork. Even if not having a great or colorful personality, it is always going to be better, even the most boring individual, than the other option, the generated image which anyone could have made by clicking a button after writing a paragraph. Besides that, you have tools like Glaze or Nightshade. That might be more or less effective (the outdated versions of the tools is no argument as the creators of these tools are updating them constantly to adapt them to the AI models changes) but IMO that does not matter. As long as it adds some sort of obstacle at least to some implementations, it's quite good enough for me. Any of these two solutions, or both, are things that we can easily do, imo. Besides all this, AI artwork is frowned upon, by a large part of society, and that is increasing, not the other way around (it is not just the copyright and other legal issues what is becoming a larger problem). I can imagine that if detected that the faker has gone as far as falsifying the strokes, creating an entire fake speed-paint, the actual painting, that person will end up with no future as an "AI artist" in terms of traffic, visits, etc. Personally, I would not worry too much, frankly. Even if not taking any of these actions or ways of doing the work.