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Username: genxdad
Post Date: 2024-07-05 02:48:01

What is the purpose of setting the Display profile here? In other art applications this is not needed to be defined. Usually the profile is used whatever the OS has the display profile is. Here I set mine to the same that my OS (Windows 11) uses. These ICC profiles were created throuhg my own Spyder calibration and profiling process. In what cases does Rebelle need these set? Under what conditions would the user need to set these to other profiles besides what their displays use? [img]https://www.escapemotions.com/community/uploads/posts/2024/07/134/2024-07-05_02-07:38_Screenshot 2024-07-04 173554.png[/img]

Username: cheriekitten
Post Date: 2024-08-08 08:05:00

rendering intent is typically for printing. but seeing as you cant print directly from rebelle i have no idea why this is to be set. maybe its so when you import to photoshop it has a hope of staying accurate ? you can already set this in photoshop once imported though. so again im not sure but this is my guess

Username: genxdad
Post Date: 2024-08-09 02:19:24

I'm not talking about the rendering intent (it is NOT just for print. This is used any time there is a conversion from one profile to another and there is no corresponding color in the target profile). I'm asking why this is an option at all to set a display specific profile. I know what workspace profile is, but this is specifiically a display profile option. So now there are 3 places to set a color profile. The OS display settings (in Windows or MacOS), this display setting (in Rebelle), and a workspace profile (in Rebelle). I'd like to know when this profile is applied and why someone would choose a different profile than the OS profile (usually this is set to the same, it seems). Please, someone from support who KNOWS this part of the system could they explain.

Username: cheriekitten
Post Date: 2024-08-09 03:24:07

you really dont have to yell

Username: cgidesign
Post Date: 2024-08-09 12:39:37

[i]"why someone would choose a different profile than the OS profile"[/i] A software like Rebelle must be developed to "read" the OS color management settings. Developers can decide to do that or implement their own way of handling profiles. It seems, Rebelle does not read the OS settings but offers its own solution. Regareding the display profiles vs. the document or working profile. I made a PDF sometime ago for Krita users. I try to explain why you want a display profile. It is very simplified information but maybe helps a bit (can be downloaded from my google drive). [URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/12fief1ACV0bEfuNneVhmnU17Udhwe0aM/view?usp=drive_link[/URL] And a good resource to read about the color management topic is here: [URL]https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/color-management-printing.htm[/URL]

Username: Anton Escape Motions
Post Date: 2024-08-09 15:54:33

Hello, thanks you for your question. The main reason for these settings is that we couldn't find a working solution for reading display profiles used in system that works on both Mac and Windows. We'd like to see this work automatically in Rebelle instead of bothering our users with display color profiles. Anton

Username: genxdad
Post Date: 2024-08-09 15:59:51

[USER=150474]@cgidesign[/USER] @Anton - Thank you for your detail response and reasoning.

Username: cgidesign
Post Date: 2024-08-09 16:43:22

@Anton [i]"We'd like to see this work automatically in Rebelle ..."[/i] Please keep it as it is - let the user select the display icc profiles manually instead of reading the setting from the Windows preferences. Reason is that Windows (especially version 10) tends to mess up the settings when connecting and disconnecting an external display to a notebook on a regular basis. It happens that the notebook display gets the external display icc profile in that case. If you let the user select the desired icc profile in your software, you avoid the weird Windows behaviour. And those users who are not aware of what display icc profiles are or, will anyway not notice whether they use a valid color management configuration or not. Your software defaults to sRGB in that case which is good enough for most users.

Username: Tom Gallovich
Post Date: 2024-08-17 10:44:58

Hi genxdad cheriekitten cgidesign Maybe the link below will help a little from a previous post. I noticed that genxdad has two different monitors with two different ICC profiles. Your Wacom and View Sonic should have the same profile? For example, if you paint on the Wacom and use the View Sonic for reference then I would assume that you would want them the same? (To keep your reference colors accurate for a painting) Unless color duplication from a reference photo is not important. In that case you would just want it to print accurately according to your original artwork from the Wacom. Otherwise at the very least if it is a calibrated profile then you would want that one on the monitor you would be printing from what ever the program used. I keep one monthly updated ICC profile across my entire system and all monitors. (3) For me it makes things consistant. This was from my photography days. Hope this helps... The forum needs an active search. Tom G. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.escapemotions.com/community/forum/t/41735/help-icc-profile-color-management-and-consistency[/URL]

Username: Tom Gallovich
Post Date: 2024-08-17 10:49:44

Link did not take, [URL]https://www.escapemotions.com/community/forum/t/41735/help-icc-profile-color-management-and-consistency[/URL]

Username: cheriekitten
Post Date: 2024-10-02 03:30:07

@tom the user was using all caps so basically meaning they are yelling at me for answering and taking time out of my day to help them. im not going to help someone that is yelling at me and wasting my time. i personally have all my monitors calibrated correctly and dont have any printing issues either. they are all 1:1 with how i handle the colors and printing. i was hoping to be able to help this person but they clearly just want someone from " support who knows this answer "